About Café Crem
Café Crem was created by Miki and Kev Moore in 2007 with the intention of gathering like-minded artists, writers and musicians together around the coffee table to discuss and share thoughts, ideas, art, etc.
This initial desire has surpassed our wildest dreams with a myriad of collaborations taking place between the various members, creating pieces of work that simply would not exist without Café Crem.
Have a wander though in our different rooms:
“Cafe Literati”, the Literary Room
“Café L’Arte”, the Art Gallery
“Ca’ Puccini”, the Music Studio
and, last but not least,
“The MiniBar”, our creative space for our kids and teens!
You are all welcome.
Contact Miki at miki@goodaboom.com if you want to participate!
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Cafe Crem’s Video of The Month
“Soul Sketching”, by Susan Cornelis and Kev Moore
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Madame Monet, a good one, and a very contentious example! I , for one, used to despair at the tourist getting off the cruise ship in tunisia, basically in a bikini with a see through wrap. What were they thinking?? But the same respect for other peoples cultures within their own country, I think, gives me the right to be outraged at the suggestion of sharia law being implemented in Britain. It is precisely this kind of ludicrous, boot-licking cow-towing to the minorities that is sending Britain to oblivion. This kind of thinking had a great deal to do with my decision to leave the country of my birth, which is now unrecognisable. Try building a methodist chapel in Saudi, and you will be deafened by cries of “when in rome” though I fear you are more likely to lose your head.
I was very interested to read your opinion, Kev. I was trying to tiptoe around the issue, yet while bringing it up. Thank you for speaking plainly!
Madame Monet
It’s my curse to speak plainly, Madame Monet! It frequently gets me into trouble!
Hi,
For your article when in Rome, I think you picked the wrong example. King Mohamed VI is a moderate. He fights Islamic radicals and promotes tolerence and women’s rights.
Topless sunbathing is very popular in France and Spain which is by Morocco. Since Morocco relies so heavily of tourism, they are very tolerant of this common way to sunbathe in Europe.
Just because a country has a tradition, it does not mean it is right. Remember, in New Guinea and the Philippines headhunting was practiced until the 1930’s.
My wife and I have been to Morocco and applaud their tolerance of others customs one of which is the European custom of topless sunbathing.
I’m sorry, Tom, but I do not think headhunting can be a valid comparison to topless sunbathing.
Having lived in the Moroccan culture for sixteen years, having worked in tourism, having married into the culture, and having raised a child in the culture, I feel I am well-qualified to state a reasonable opinion of Moroccan culture.
You are correct in stating that topless sunbathing is “tolerated” by foreigners for the tourist dollars. But that does NOT mean it is acceptable behavior! I can assure you that NO Moroccans “respect” the people doing this–they only “respect” their money! If a Moroccan woman were to try the same thing at the same hotel where it was practiced by foreigners, she would be immediately ejected, or even arrested, and immediately be taken for a prostitute.
That being said, I did try topless sunbathing once in Australia, where I was the ONLY person on the beach with my top ON…..this was truly a case of “When in Rome, do as the Romans do…”
I’m a teacher and a parent. When my daughter, or my kids at school tell me “everybody’s doing it,” I tell them to go by the 2/3 rule. If 2/3 of the people are doing it, then it’s probably acceptable.
Madame Monet
Hiya MM,
I love this topic, its great, I agree that we should try our upmost to fit into the rules of a country, and believe it or not, my religion also teaches that, ”live by the rules and lifestyles of the country you’re in” provided it doesnt clash with major things, like I wont go drinking in a pub which is Brit culture, as I dont drink alcohol, but I’ll visit with work colleagues, though its tough as I cant stand the smell, haha.. but thats just an example. I dont agree with a lot of immigrants who come to England like my Pakistani people, we hold on to our culture much faster than any other nation I’ve ever known, which is good but they tend to keep the ugly parts of the culture and never adapt to the Brit way of life, hence our communities are marginalised, which is sad, but we’re partly to blame.
About the mosques and a Sharia council? Hmm..
well I’m religious (sometimes, when I rememebr), I like to have a nearby place of worship to visit, for peace, solitude etc, sadly where I live, my community have had to make do with a portakabin for 2 decades, I was very little and I remember all the hoo haa about building a stunning mosque for us all in our local community, large enough to acommodate us all, built entirely on our own funding, sadly it was always smashed to peices by vandals everytime the building work progressed, that hurt our own pockets, now im 25 and its finally ‘almost’ done, its brilliant as I was able to spend most of my Ramadhan in the new mosque.
Yes, we do want to adapt to different cultures, in fact we are already, but not all of us want to abandon our religion so readily.
In fact, if any of you visit Pakistan, the cities, the youth there are irrecognisably modern, you’d think you stepped into L.A or something, the ‘Pakistani’ culture is dying., its only a minority of expats in England, USA etc who are still stuck in an ancient era who carry it forth.
I completely deplore the acts of vandalism against your mosque, such are the actions of the ill-eductated and the bigoted. I also think, although non-religious, that no-one should have to abandon their religion. That is simply freedom of choice, and I’m sure one can commune with one’s God anywhere, in solitude.
There are several factors that add fuel to the fire for the hooligans and naysayers..one is the legislation that allows ordinary houses to apply for registration as mosques, allowing substantial tax benefits, and the other is the intransigence abroad when it comes to tolerating other religions, such as in Saudi. I don’t know if there’s an easy answer but I do know that moderates have to shout louder than the militants.
Yeah so true, about the moderates, but i’m bored of this ”i’m moderate” talk, its so cliche now, it feels as if Islam is a new thing and its being poked and prodded constantly, like the world has suddenly been rudely intruded on by this ”thing” called Islam..
To be honest, the blame all lands on ill-educated ideots, both the ”Muslim” ones who have given us this image and the non-Muslim ones who have judged us wrong and spread falseties via the media, etc. Its definitely a double edged sword and the Muslim moderates are the ones being poked by the sharp edge.
Anyway.. i’m in a la-di-da mood..
Not in the mood to discuss heavier topics at this moment in time.. I shall resume my ignorance is bliss mode again now.. haha
i support this topic.and i think that it is very important for us to try to know and understand about the culture of this country when u want to study,travel or do business there.for example,when u enter VietNam,maybe in ur country u have meal with knife and folk but in my country and some asian country everybody use chopsticks to have meal.and other example that in England,on the street,both vehicle and passenger go on the left side,but in my country and some others they go on the right side.and it’s cool that u know more about the culture of the country u want to visit.